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We Love Our Fathers!

ImageThere is nothing in this world more enjoyable than sports, and there is no better way to enjoy sports than with your father.  For the Sports Debaters, we can give all the credit for our love and interest in sports to our fathers Bruce and Peter.  So first off, Happy Father’s Day!  Memories from your first catch in the back yard, to the first sports team you ever tried out for, to the first trophy you ever won will stay with you forever and we just want to thank our father’s for pushing us and always being there for us for these momentous occasions.  You may have seen either Bruce or Peter commenting on our articles trying to keep us on our toes and we couldn’t appreciate it more.  This article is dedicated to them!

ImageThe baseball great Harmon Killebrew once said, “My father used to play with my brother and me in the yard. Mother would come out and say”, “You’re tearing up the grass.” “We’re not raising grass,” my dad would reply, “we’re raising boys.”  This is the sort of thing our fathers would have said, followed with a quick apology of course, so that is why this article is being written for them.  Below is a handful of the greatest father-son athletes in their respective sports.  The list is nearly endless so we chose one combination from 5 different sports and we would love it if you added to the comments page with famous duo’s that you think deserved to be on this list.

FOOTBALL: Archie, Peyton and Eli Manning

ImageThree unbelievable quarterbacks with a combined 15 Pro-Bowl selections and 3 Superbowl victories, the Manning’s are without question the greatest father-son’s trio of all time.  I know this article is for duo’s but how can you leave this family off of it.  Archie had the unfortunate disadvantage of playing for a terrible team his entire career.  Even though he had a losing record for his career, he was still respected as a very good quarterback.  As for Peyton and Eli, if you don’t know about them then you are probably on the wrong website.  Peyton is set to begin the second part of his career with his new team the Denver Broncos and Eli is coming of winning his second Superbowl.  Both Eli and Peyton have proved to be not only great athletes on the field, but they both showed their surprisingly funny comedy chops in numerous commercials as well as both hosting Saturday Night Live.

BASEBALL:  Ken Griffey Sr and Jr

ImageThese two amazing athletes not only mastered the same sport, but they actually played on the same team for a short period of time.  Ken Griffey Sr. started his career with the Cincinnati Reds where he went on to make 3 all-star teams and won back-to-back World Series (1975-76).  After traveling through the Yankees, Braves and back to the Reds, KG Sr went on to finish his storied career with the Seattle Mariners.  His final move to Seattle was historic because it paired him with his son Ken Griffey Jr.  I am sure that even Senior would admit that his son definitely had one up on him.  Junior, or “The Kid”, was one of the best all-around baseball players of all time.  6th on the list for most home runs ever and 10 Gold Gloves playing Center Field make Junior a shoe-in for Cooperstown.  After his retirement, the Associated Press went on to say, “In his prime, Ken Griffey Jr. was unanimously considered the best player in baseball.”

BASKETBALL:  Joe and Kobe Bryant

ImageJoe “Jellybean” Bryant was the greatest NBA player to ever wear the #23…just kidding, but he did go on to have an above average career both playing and coaching.  Drafted out of La Salle University by the Golden State Warriors, Jellybean went on to play for 3 different NBA teams and 5 different teams overseas between Italy and France.  He has most recently found himself as a coach in the WNBA for the Los Angeles Sparks during the 2011-12 season.  Now I don’t know if you have ever heard of his son, Kobe Bryant, but he is pretty good.  Kobe has won 5 NBA Championships and continues to be one of the best players in the NBA year after year.  He has made 14 all-star games and went on to win the NBA MVP back in 2008.  Kobe will go down as not only one of the best players in Lakers history, but NBA history as well.

HOCKEY:  Bobby and Brett Hull

ImageBobby Hull is considered the greatest left winger to ever play the game and arguably the best player period.   Bobby was famous for his blonde hair, blinding skating speed, and having the hardest shot, which is how he earned the nickname “The Golden Jet.”  He won the Stanley Cup with the Chicago Black Hawks back in 1961 and went on to lead the league in goal scoring a remarkable 7 times in the sixties.  Bobby was elected to the Hockey Hall of Fame in 1983.  Bobby’s son Brett wasn’t too shabby himself.  Brett has the third most goals in NHL history (741), with one of them being the game winning goal on Dominik Hasek to win the 1999 Stanley Cup, which was the first one in the Dallas Stars history.  Brett went on to win the Cup with the Red Wings in 2002 and was appropriately nicknamed after his father as “The Golden Brett.”  Brett joined his father in the Hall of Fame in 2009.

NASCAR:  Dale Earnhardt Sr and Jr

ImageDale Earnhardt Sr is without question one of the greatest race car drivers of all time.  During the course of his career, Earnhardt won a total of 76 races, including the Daytona 500 in 1998. He earned seven championships, which is tied for the most all time with NASCAR great, Richard Petty.  His aggressive driving style earned him the nickname “The Intimidator,” as well as leading to his tragic death after a horrific crash while racing in the 2001 Daytona 500.  His son continued the family legacy by building a respectable career of his own.  With an estimated net worth of $300 million, Junior has gone on to win the “Most Popular Driver Award,” a record 9 times.  Junior won the Daytona 500 in 2004 and has done his best to honor his father in everything that he does.

We hope you enjoyed reading all of these great father-son duos in sports and we encourage you to call your fathers on a daily basis and remind them that it is them who have helped form who you are today.  We also want to give a shout out to our grandfathers Herbert Simon and Eugene Riback, for they have been fathering way longer than our dads.  Feel free to let us know about any other duos that you feel were unjustly left off this list and we just want to wish every father out there a Happy Father’s Day!

Offense on the Defensive


I’m just throwing this so the defense has something to chase.

San Francisco 49ers quarterback, Alex Smith, has made it abundantly clear that he does not believe offense wins games.  Not really what you want to hear from the leader of your offense.  In a recent interview, Smith said that he does not think big stats equate to wins…well they don’t really hurt either.

“I could absolutely care less on yards per game,” Smith told a group of reporters. “I think that is a totally overblown stat because if you’re losing games in the second half, guess what, you’re like the Carolina Panthers and you’re going no-huddle the entire second half. Yeah, Cam Newton threw for a lot of 300-yard games. That’s great. You’re not winning, though.”


Don’t slam Cam the man or I’ll Beason sticky on your ass.

After hearing this comment about his quarterback, Carolina Panthers Linebacker Jon Beason tweeted,  “Alex smith, don’t hate on Cam (because) your stats would’ve gotten u cut if Peyton decided to come 2 San Fran. Truth b told. That’s after a 13-3 yr.”

I found this to be one of the funniest things I have ever heard.  The sad part is that it is painfully true.  Alex Smith led his 49ers to win the NFC West and make it all the way to the NFC Championship game where they eventually lost to the Superbowl champion New York Giants.  San Fran was one of the many teams that went after the coveted free agent Peyton Manning.  There is a lot of validity to what Smith is saying about stats being over hyped, but demeaning what Cam Newton did for last year’s Carolina Panthers was an unnecessary low blow.


Win or lose, it’s the winners that count.

Drew Brees, Tom Brady, Matthew Stafford, Eli Manning and Aaron Rodgers were the top 5 QB’s in passing yards this past season.  All five of them made the playoffs and had successful seasons.  Eli even went on to lead his team to win the Superbowl and was given the MVP award for the game.  I am a strong believer that defense wins games in the long run, but it is impossible to win it all without a fundamentally sound offense.  I honestly think that if Cam Newton and his offense had the defense supporting him that Alex Smith had this past season, then Cam would have been lifting that trophy instead of Eli.  I might be a little biased based on the fact that Cam Newton absolutely killed it for my fantasy team this past year, but Alex Smith should just keep his mouth shut and let his defense keep winning games for him.

In this past season, Alex Smith had less passing yards than QB duds like Mark Sanchez and Rex Grossman.  Smith was 27th in the league in yards per game, with less than 200, and he threw for a dismal 17 total touchdowns.  Maybe Smith should start caring a little more about stats because he will find himself riding the bench soon enough with those numbers.  Winning your division is great and a 13-3 record is nothing to laugh at, but whether you finish last in the league or you lose in the Superbowl the end result is the same.

Debate of the Day: Is Peyton Manning’s decision to play for the Denver Broncos the correct decision?


NyBobby’s Take:   No, Peyton Manning is absolutely making a mistake.  He should not sign with Denver, he should not sign with Miami, in fact he should not be signing a contract to play with anyone.  We have seen this story before and it never ends well for the legendary Quarterback who has taken his talents to another city after playing an entire career in one.  Look at Favre, Montana and Unitas.  Peyton Manning was drafted a Colt, played a great 13 years with their organization and should have retired in Colt blue and white.  He is to the Colts what John Elway is to Peyton’s new team: The all-time franchise Quarterback.  Elway knew when to hang it up, Peyton needs to follow suit.
Peyton Manning should really be joining either ESPN, CBS, NBC or another analyst position.  He could also pursue a career in coaching, in which I’m sure the Colts would have been glad to oblige.  Everyone has seen Peyton in countless TV commercials and SNL skits.  He is extremely personable, has a great sense of humor and seems to be one of those people who will succeed in any path of life.  That is if he chooses to walk away while he possesses the capacity to think clearly.


I know he has the desire to be on the field as a player, but Manning has to consider the risk.  Is one or two more years really enough to risk a potential life altering injury?  His neck fusion surgery still has complications and he is at an advanced age in which injuries don’t heal as quickly.  He is not a mobile QB, never was, and at 38 he will be less so.  As a QB, Manning will be sitting in the pocket, and will undeniably take a ton of hits.   There is no way to know that he will be his former self and if he takes another shot to the head or neck, there is no guarantee that he can enjoy the same quality of life as he could now if he just walks away.  

Peyton has accomplished everything in the NFL imaginable.  13 seasons all with one franchise.  Third in passing yards in NFL history, a Super Bowl Ring, Super Bowl MVP and multiple NFL regular season MVPs.  Unless he is feeling pressure to finish with more Super Bowl’s then his little brother, I can’t see the force that would make him undergo this risk.  We all know Peyton Manning is headed to the Pro Football Hall of Fame already.  As a fan, I’d prefer to see him walk to the podium to deliver his speech under his own power.

Matthewtodderich’s Take:  Peyton Manning is 100% making the correct decision.  Let’s start with easy reasons.  First, the Denver Broncos are coming off a successful season where they not only won the AFC West, but they also upset the Pittsburgh Steelers in the first round of the playoffs.  The final play of the Broncos Steelers game was an 80 yard overtime touchdown pass to Peyton’s future favorite target Demaryious Thomas.  Secondly, the Broncos also had the best rushing defense in the league last year with a very young team that will only get better.

 Some people might question whether Peyton coming back to football at all is the right decision.  To those people, all I have to say is “4 MVP’s.”  Yes he suffered an injury that can be career ending but he also went through an entire season of rehab and passed every physical examination to this point.  Since being drafted #1 out of Tennessee by the Colts he has only proved to be nothing but flawless.

The “Free Agency Era” started back in 1993 and to this day no one has been more sought after then Peyton himself. I believe that the talent Peyton posses and the team he has chosen to go to with fit perfectly together.  They are my early preseason pick to not only win the AFC West again but to definitely make some noise deeper into the playoffs.  If John Elway can make Tim Tebow look like a playoff caliber quarterback then God only knows what he can do for arguably the greatest quarterback ever.

Where is Peyton Going?