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Debate of the Day: Who’s Next After Timmy…


Duncan – that’s only one of his moves as the best power forward. Shootan, Passan, Reboundan; they’re all Timmy’s!

There is little debate about who the best Power Forward in the past 15 seasons has been.  Tim Duncan has been a game changing player since he entered the league in 1997, helping lead his Spurs team to a championship in only his second year.  In his career he has averaged 20.3 ppg, 11.3 rebounds, 2.2 blocks and he played in at least 50 games every season he’s been in the league.  With 4 NBA Championships, 2 MVPs, 3 Finals MVPs and a Rookie of the Year award to his name, he has assured himself a Hall of Fame spot and he’s in the discussion for best big man of all time.  He has a chance this year to make another run at a title, and I’m not quite sure people are appreciating Timmy for what he’s worth.  With all that said, the Sports Debater Brain Trust is having a small disagreement over who the next great Power Forward will be.  With the likes of Duncan, Kevin Garnett and Dirk Nowitzki in their last years, the young crop of Power Forwards are ready to step into the limelight.  LaMarcus Aldridge, Derrick Favors, Thaddeus Young, Michael Beasley, Derrick Williams and company all have a lot of potential, but we choose two others to argue about as to who has the most upside.

Kevin Love vs. Blake Griffin


Love to love ya baby

Kevin Love (NYbobby)Kevin Love is an absolute machine.  Although he plays in Minnesota, which is basically off the NBA map as far as relevance goes, Love has filled up the stat sheets in every way imaginable.  He was drafted with the fifth pick by the Memphis Grizzlies in 2008, and traded the same day to the T-Wolves, weeks after leading the UCLA Bruins to a Final Four appearance in his Freshman season.  In Love’s rookie season he had 29 double-doubles, finishing ninth in rebounds, 3rd in offensive rebounds and led the league in offensive rebounding percentage.  He was the first rookie to do so since Hakeem Olajuwon in 84-85, and Hakeem’s career ended out being pretty decent…

In the past few seasons Love has put up scary, historic numbers.  He began this last season with 15 straight double doubles, being the first player to do so in twenty years since….you guessed it…Hakeem Olajuwon!  In 2010-2011 he led the NBA in rebounding with 15.2 a game, and followed it up this past year with a 13.3 average.  His scoring in the past two years has increased from 20.0 ppg to 26.2 ppg.  At this rate, we might be looking at 28-29 ppg next year with 14-15 rebounds?!?!  The sky seems to be the limit at this point.

Are those numbers not enough proof that Love is the top PF going forward.  In November of 2010, Love had the first 30 point, 30 rebound game in 28 years of NBA ball.  This past year he scored 51 points in a game against Oklahoma City, then on the next night he put up a smooth 30 point, 21 rebound game against Denver…No Big Deal.  He broke the T-Wolves record for 30 point games in a season, sorry Kevin Garnett.  Just to top it all off, he went head to head with Kevin Durant in the Three Point Contest at this past All-Star game and beat him too.  So lets recap, best rebounder in the game, historic double doubles, averages mid 20’s in ppg, and can outshoot the top sniper in the game from downtown.  Not too shabby…


Griffin, Love out!

Blake Griffin (matthewtodderich)

 Electrifying, high-flying, fearless, tenacious, these are just a few of the many ways you can describe the young phenomenon they call Blake Griffin.  From his dominance in college, playing for Oklahoma, to his car-leaping slam dunk in the NBA All-Star game last season, Griffin has mesmerized the basketball world.  Just into his second season, Griffin has led his LA Clippers to the second round of the playoffs where he faces off with best power forward of all time, Tim Duncan.  Even though these two guys play the same position, they play two completely different styles of the game.  While Duncan plays the more conventional PF with his casual post-up ability linked with his smooth bank shot, Griffin has started a new trend for PF’s where he moves without the ball like a stealth ninja and electrifies the fans with his acrobatic dunks.   

Griffin won 4 state titles as a high schooler at Oklahoma Christian School, playing for his father, and stayed at home to attend the University of Oklahoma for his college ball.  He was showered with numerous accolades like Naismith College Player of the Year, the Oscar Robertson trophy and the John Wooden award.  After 2 years at Oklahoma, Griffin was taken with the first overall pick by the Clippers.  He went on to win the Rookie of the Year in 2010, and was honored by Sports Illustrated in 2011, as they named him one of the top 15 NBA Rookies of all-time.  In that Rookie season, Griffin was the first rookie since Allen Iverson in 1996 to have two 40 point games in his first campaign.  Following in the footsteps of the before mentioned Duncan, Griffin was the first Rookie to be voted into an All-Star game by the coaches since Timmy himself in 1998.      

Griffin is only through his second full season but his numbers speak volumes of what we can expect from him for years to come.  Blake averages 22 points per game while pulling in close to 12 boards.  He is also a very impressive passer for a big man with an average of close to 4 assists a game.  The most amazing part of Griffin’s behemoth offensive stats is that he shoots the ball at an outstanding 55% from the floor.  There is no power forward in the game that does more for his team right now, and there is no one with more upside then Blake Griffin right now in the NBA.  Blake has taken the laughing-stock of the NBA, LA Clippers, and transformed them into a playoff contending team that anyone with a little sense would fear playing.


You’ve heard our thoughts on this subject…Who do you agree with and if it’s neither of us, who do you believe is the future of the PF position in today’s game…

2 responses

  1. You are a smart person!

    May 17, 2012 at 9:43 AM

  2. Chris

    Blake’s the man…….

    May 17, 2012 at 7:15 AM

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